In this episode of Health Fail, Steven & Zac sit down with Niall Brennan, former CDO of HHS & current President & CEO of the Health Care Cost Institute. They discuss Niall’s fascinating story of immigrating to the US from Ireland with nothing but his “rucksack” on his back and his education from the “University of Life”. In the conversation Niall shares his perspective on the failures of our health system, what it’s like working within the US government and why there is an unbroken line of rising healthcare costs.

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